Comments on: Cruel Trapping Makes Wildlife Refuges Unsafe

By: Scott

Scott — Fri, 16 Sep 2011 03:28:24 +0000

Thanks for the comment Bigsky. So are you a proponent of steel jaw leghold traps?

By: bigsky

bigsky — Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:05:49 +0000

Scott. I see no problem with trapping as a regulated pursuit of an outdoor activity by some folks. Where is it said that people like you alone can enjoy the outdoors? Some folks enjoy the outdoors by trapping muskrats or beaver. With proper regulations, trapping and other uses compliment each other. Hunting, for example, is allowed on parts of many refuges. Ducks Unlimited, by the way, is an organization that supports the refuge with much needed funding for habitat. I guess I see muskrats as a renewable resource, much like deer or ducks, that can be utilized by commone folks who live in the area. Again, regulation is the key. No one should be trapping where dogs or people abound. Many refuges have very few people visiting them. Some are very popular, for sure, although in my area I see very few people visiting our local refuge except the occational duck or deer hunter.

By: Minda

Minda — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:30:34 +0000

I think, you’re right Scott. But, the other people, maybe disagree with you. Anyway, great post here! Thanks
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By: Pet Insurance

Pet Insurance — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:42:12 +0000

i HATE that last picture. it’s horrific! how can anyone do this? its obvious the fox is in pain. =(
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By: Scott

Scott — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 01:40:09 +0000

Dear Chris,

Thank you for visiting and I thought I might be able to offer a bit of advice for any future debates in which you do so find yourself engaged. Making wild accusations in an attempt to classify your opponent as a hypocrite or utilizing smugness (i.e. 3 beautiful foxes to skin) to wrap up your opinion only makes your rebuttal less effective and essentially destroys your argument, which in this particular instance is an incredibly weak case for torturing wildlife.

I take it from your ad hominem argument that you have exhausted any and all logic pertaining to this subject and are resorting to slander instead. As an FYI for those interested in Debating 101, according to The Prometheus Institute, “When your opponent uses ad hominem arguments against you…it is a signal that your arguments are so convincing that your adversary must launch personal assaults due to his inability to rebut your message.”

In regards to the actual topic at hand, Lisa is exactly right regarding the use of steel jaw leghold traps. It is an invention of the 1820s that has remained relatively unchanged and is due for extinction. Needless suffering in steel jaw leghold traps is avoidable, especially since more humane alternatives exist and can/should be explored, and safer and kinder non-invasive methods of preventing attacks have been developed.

By: Amber Coakley

Amber Coakley — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:22:10 +0000

Scott,
I knew that hunting was permitted on at least some of our National Wildlife Refuges, which I immediately found contradictory. I assumed that “hunting” meant shooting with a gun or using a bow and arrow. It never occurred to me that trapping is another way of hunting or “harvesting” animals. My first reaction was to think, “they still trap animals?” I guess I thought that whatever real-fur products are available probably came from farm-raised animals.

I feel much the same as you in that I am deeply troubled about wildlife suffering at the hands of humans. I find that I want to save every animal, everywhere! I am a big supporter of the natural predator-prey relationship as a manner of achieving wildlife population balance, though I am worried that human interference may have caused irreversible damage already.

I just found your blog today, and have thoroughly enjoyed exploring your posts. I’ll be back.
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By: Lisa

Lisa — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 01:19:32 +0000

Chris,

1) If animals were put on earth for man’s use, then why are there so many animal species that live out their entire existence without ever coming in contact with humans or impacting human lives? Face it — animals exist for themselves. Humans just found a way to use them.

2) The traps that are the most cruel have undergone little change in the many decades they’ve been in use. What is wrong with finding a more humane way to harvest animals. Steel traps are the lazy way to trap — just put it out and catch anything that comes in contact with it. Then let the animal die in agony, while trappers wait days to go out and see what they caught. This immense cruelty is why the steel-jaw trap is being banned in US states and European countries.

If trapping is to continue, it must be modernized, or more groups will find a way to regulate trapping out of existence.

By: Chris

Chris — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:54:38 +0000

How exactly due you intend to control the popualtion of fur bearing animals, rabies carrying animals such as Coyotes and Raccoons who’s numbers are increasing in the Northeast to the point of being dangerous. They DO kill livestock (Coyotes), and peole have been attacked on numerous occasions. The same people crying foul about trapping are some of the biggest hypocrites. You talk of the “cruelty” of trapping while tying the leather Nike sneakers you purchased that were made from the hides of domesticated animals that lived and were killed in a much less humane manner than that of the Red Fox caught by a responsible trapper. Did I mention those sneakers were more than likely made through the use of forced child labor in some 3rd world sweatshop. You people need to get off your high horses and realize that animals were put on this earth for man’s use and before stones start getting thrown in your glass house, you should take inventory of yourself and your lifestyle and have a reality check.
I have to go now because I have 3 beautiful Grey Fox that I need to skin to get ready for auction. I sure hope whomever get’s the end product appreciates the effort it took to catch them (dang their smart).

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